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    • Spinal transformation, and more

      Folks,

      This is my second introduction. The first one appeared six years ago.

      I gave this a grand title as you can see. It is an accurate title.

      What began as neck-cracking – eventually every 15 seconds or so, every day and, eventually, all night and every night – has now revealed itself as a spontaneous remission from severe scoliosis. My whole trunk has been twisted to the left all of my a***t life, or at least since pre-adolescence. Surely the twisting process was gradual. It is due, I think, to an eye imbalance called strabismus or lazy eye.

      I am in the final stages of this transformation.

      I have gained about an inch in height since age 50 due to this transformation, and I am now in my mid-but-going-on-late sixties.

      This process has been outlandishly difficult, almost to the point of driving me mad. It has been difficult socially since I have looked spastic. Modern medicine has had no clue, none at all.

      There is an inner transformation which accompanies this outer transformation. I will say no more about that since it is not my place to say much about it. I am a passage meditator and I think this transformation comes as a result of that. I have a spiritual teacher and a spiritual path.

      There are also significant health benefits accompanying this process. A straighter spine is a better spine, and the straightening has helped clear up several distressing health inconveniences such as acid reflux, toe-cramping and leg cramping, and more. My eye imbalance seems to be resolving: straighter gaze, no more double vision, or headaches due to the lazy-eye imbalance. I have gradually cracked through considerable areas of arthritis and scar tissue, resulting in far greater freedom of motion. The whole spine is lots more flexible now. Youthful, compared to, say, one decade ago.

      If anyone wants, do go ahead and look at my first introduction to compare the two. Here is the link:

      https://www.jointcrackers.com/topic/583/an-end-to-neck-spine-cracking

      I named that one ‘an end to neck spine cracking’. That was six years ago. The title was premature.

      Also, I am not sure if I can be of use to anyone else. No one helped me with advice or example. No reading material that I ever found shed any light on this. But I am hoping my post here might at least give heart to anyone else undergoing anything similar. This post would have helped me for example, in reducing the sheer baffling uncertainty around this surprising and remarkable process. Even though the process continues, more dramatically than ever at this point, I no longer find myself baffled by it. It is a gift.

      Thanks,

      Brian

      PS: I plan to revisit this post here about once per week, for a while, to see if there are any comments.

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: An end to neck/spine cracking

      Hello Jaw Cracker. Thanks for the post.

      I can't add much to what I have already written – not that you were looking for more from me of course. But I think it is smart to help others who may show up here. Joint cracking can be confusing, if and when it gets out of hand.

      As it may have, in my own case!

      I am still cracking. As I said before, it is now focused on the mid-back area. It can go on for hours. It always seems to be addressing needed structural changes. But it just never stops. I assume it is going somewhere useful. It definitely seems to be... but the fact that it never resolves, or so far has not resolved, has me wondering sometimes.

      Like you though, I see changes which seem very good. I stand taller now than before, and lots straighter. Several problems have diminished or gone away; and anyone interested in those can look for my earlier posts about that.

      posted in Treatment
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    • RE: Neck cracking while I'm breathing…

      Enigma: Your reply to Jelly is really good, IMO. I hope others get around to seeing it here.

      Thanks! I will remember this!

      And by the way, I also had Prolo treatments. I agree with that idea. Smart of you to mention it. We need of course to find someone who knows how to do it well. Luckily there is one in my area. I hope the practice is catching on and spreading, since it is very helpful for strengthening ligaments.

      I might also add that there are concentration style meditation methods that some people prefer. Google 'passage meditation' for a good example. But what you say is also very good, for those who take to the 'blank mind' style.

      posted in Off-Topic
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    • RE: Pulling the spine to "pop" or "crack" it

      You ask, what is "ripping?"

      I gather there is a fluid pressure of some kind. Or even gas – C02, they say. The popping comes from a shift within the joint.

      EDIT: JC posted good information on that here:
      http://www.jointcrackers.com/ftopict-25.html

      I also strongly suspect that there are adhesions as well as arthritic spindles (my term) that we sometimes break though. We get clear sensations from doing that, and the sounds are also distinct. 'Ripping' is a word that I do recognize, from the sound and also the feeling.

      What are adhesions? Soft tissue formations, much like scar tissue.

      What are what I am calling spindles? Filaments of calcification. On an x-ray they look like cotton filaments.

      If you are interested, go over to the 'Treatment' thread, in Forums, to see my latest post about my own situation. It may provide useful information for you. Here is the link:
      http://jointcrackers.com/ftopict-708.html

      posted in Joint cracking
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    • An end to neck/spine cracking

      Folks… This will be a long post. To get what it is about you might skip to the end of it for a summary.

      Over time I have read lots of the posts at this site. From that reading I am concluding that my own cracking situation is not a common one. But if someone out there really does have a similar situation, I want to offer hope.

      Cracking has been, for me, almost overwhelming. Mine is in the spine. It started as neck cracking. There has been a left-side issue, as though due to a blockage of some sort on the left side. That issue is cleared now.

      In fact, my cracking has changed very much over time. It has seemed to travel downwards and has gone from the skull to, nowadays, the mid-back area. The current cracking is very 'productive' and seems to indicate an ever-increasing (and healthy) new mobility. That is my assessment.

      But the whole process, over about five years now, has occupied a huge amount of my life and attention. It has included significant pain, and significant sleep loss.

      I do believe the need to crack and the resultant sense of release represents some sort of healing, in my case, rather than disease. But it has been remarkably difficult to deal with. Others around me in my life view it as a disease and have forced me, basically, to seek lots of various treatments -- all of them time-consuming and expensive, and all, so far, by professionals who do not understand what they are faced with here.

      But I want to report to you folks that the cracking is vastly diminished nowadays. It is going somewhere. It appears to be headed to some sort of conclusion.

      If someone told me this say three years ago, it would have saved me considerable worry. That is why I am telling you folks.

      I can go whole car rides with none of it happening, for instance; and that is new. I can sit through a whole movie with no cracking. But I will admit that pressure is still there. It is always there. The pressure translates to a stretching need -- and I am sure that the stretching is good and healthful, making for greatly improved posture and also function.

      A final note: I am a meditator. I have meditated daily, twice per day, for many decades. It is a concentration style meditation. I think the world of it and am very glad that I have taken it so seriously for so long. I suspect that this practice has however enhanced the growth process resulting in such an immense cracking need. Sped up evolution is how I interpret it. You'd think that, if so, wisdom would also increase. Let's hope it does, and that it has.

      Anyway, I think my cracking days are drawing to an end. I believe the whole experience has been a gift, though I admit it has been a really difficult gift.

      If you are interested in more of my words on this, see my own intro to this site here:

      http://www.jointcrackers.com/ftopict-633.html

      posted in Treatment
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    • RE: Neck cracking while I'm breathing…

      @Jellyboo:

      Hi there, I created my account a while ago but only just found it again now. I want to really apologise in advance for this massively long post.. I just need to vent. I'm getting desperate for some answers to this; none of the doctors think there's anything wrong with me, I've had x-ray of neck but it's just getting worse.
      Some background info: I'm a 16 yr old female.

      Basically, whenever I breathe in, my neck cracks. I've noticed the sound is one of two: either a squishy crackling sound with no actual crack, or a big dull sickening cracking sound. Every single time I take a breath. I can't stand it any longer. I've had this for 11 months now and it's just getting worse. I don't know what it is and am getting two panic attacks a day at the moment.

      Also, I have an aching pressure feeling all up the back of my head, and am almost always lightheaded. I'm so scared it's something serious. It feels like there is a hole in my spinal cord, and it's pushing and catching on the vertebrae.. I just can't cope with it anymore. My mum doesn't know what to do either. I'm going to a psychologist to try and manage my panic, but I just keep thinking what if it's NOT just panic and anxiety, and it's something serious being overlooked. I'm just really scared.

      I have to sit with my head poked right out rested on my hand because if I have my head straight up, it just cracks and cracks and makes my neck hurt to the touch. This is making my posture terrible 'cus it's making my head stick out and shoulders rounded. If I sit up straight, it cracks between my shoulder blades and hurts.

      When I move my head to the side it grates right at the top. And also, I can make my neck do the dull crack by putting both of my hands on my shoulders and dragging forwards, then breathing in. When I do this, if I put my hand at the top of my chest, or the side of my jaw, I can feel the crack vibrate through my bones.

      The squishy sound coming from the top of my neck near the base of my skull: I'm scared its the sound of the blood vessels being severed and that's why I'm dizzy and get sharp pains in my head.. I also have terrible depersonalisation and it's making that worse. I've read articles about there being a link to stroke and neck cracking, but I'm not even cracking my neck on purpose..

      Been to a phsyiotherapist and I'm hypermobile so I suppose that could explain the squishing sound..? The ligaments between the vertebrae? The doctor says my neck muscles are very tense too and because I'm hypermobile my muscles are weak. So I suppose this could be what's causing it? My phsyio hasn't even given me any excersises or anything though, everyone just seems to be shrugging it off. I really don't know what to do.

      I'm sorry for posting all this, I just had to get it out. Thankyou so much if you've read all this; it means a lot. Any advice/ comments at all would be appreciated if anyone has any information or anything at all. I'm desperate..
      ~Jelly

      I think the issue to deal with is hypermobility.

      In my case, strengthening exercises have been most necessary. Strengthen the muscles around what is hypermobile, to provide more support.

      Clearly, if there is cracking, there is rigidity beneath the hypermobile area. So, loosening up the rigid areas also helps incredibly. But it takes a long time. Long time or not, it is worth it since anyway what choice do we have?

      I have turned myself into almost an athlete in terms of how strong my back and abdominal muscles are. Also neck muscles.

      That is my take on your situation, Jelly. I wish you the best.

      posted in Off-Topic
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    • RE: Hey my name is chococrazy

      @chococrazy:

      K guys I just made a new account.
      I'm the 700th and 701th member 😛

      Welcome to you!

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: Pulling the spine to "pop" or "crack" it

      @Boop:

      Hmm, let's see if I can explain it better. It sounds weird though, right? haha!

      Okay:

      Get on all fours, on your hands and knees like a dog or some such thing.

      Arch your back, not up, but down, and look up at the ceiling as best you can. So I guess that could sound like a banana on all fours? LOL! Arching helps the other person to get a better grip on the skin over your spine.

      Then get your partner to start from the base of your spine and working up (I usually have him stop just below my shoulder blades), pinching the skin firmly over your spine with two hands and pull up, no pushing down. Think of it as the exact opposite to how people usually have someone crack their back (which is usually pushing down).

      So in theory, when your back is all compressed from the stresses of the day (walking, sitting, exercising, so on), I feel the by doing this you are literally pulling compressed discs out and into their original alignment.

      I mentioned this to a chiropractor once who said it certainly isn't hurting anything, so no harm no foul.

      I usually get a dozen pops or so. The ones near the base are usually just small pops but as you work up, they get LOUDER! Sometimes, if you get a good grip, you can pull two or three vertebrae at once! And yes, you can literally feel individual verts. shifting and popping, so can your partner! It's very, very satisfying!

      I recommend it to anyone who can tolerate someone else pulling their back like that. My partner doesn't like it because the pinching/gripping of the skin itself hurts, not the popping. I personally love it and could literally be lifted off of the floor by my skin alone without feeling pain! There is a type of massage I enjoy with the back pulling, it has a real name (Tai Ne? Something weird like that) that involves pinching, pulling, and rolling the skin. It feels WONDERFUL on my back, I can feel my blood circulating and the skin gets hot. Very nice after a tough day.

      Aside from my back, I pop the usual: all toes (including the tarsals or whichever of the foot), knees, hips, neck, all of the joint in my fingers (even that teeny joint in my thumbs), my wrists, and jaw. I am also "double jointed" or whatever in all of these places and more.

      Also: there is a way to pull your back by yourself if you care to know.

      SO!

      Does anyone else do this? LOL. I am going to guess: No. But maybe you'll give it a try?

      Boop,

      I formerly did something similar all by myself. In my case, I would lie on my back and, with hands behind the head, pull the head forward and down in a sudden motion. Many cracks would result, cascading quickly. It was spinal, and mostly upper spine. I could only do it once per hour or so – as though the cracking possibility built up over time.

      I thought this maneuver was helping spinal mobility. Maybe it was. But it morphed over time. It became a major cracking thing, a habit and a need, which is still with me. It is neck-oriented these days. I am almost certain though that I am getting through something, and correcting a life-long structural problem, by these millions of cracks -- and finally now, stretching. I am stretching some stuck areas so that they can move again.

      I am not sure if you will find this account useful. I wish you the best.

      posted in Joint cracking
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    • RE: THE BEST TREATMENTS - your ideas please

      This sure is an old thread. You asked this question in 2008? and no one has replied yet? Or I am maybe reading the stats wrong.

      But, on to the topic at hand, namely treatment…

      One issue seems to be that the word 'treatment' implies an illness, or problem, and generally something one is trying to get over. I notice several posters here do not want to get over joint cracking.

      In my case, I do -- and I am.

      Why 'treat' joint cracking? Actually, it is more that the joint cracking is treating another problem. I think that I am helping along a process that showed up as joint cracking -- in the neck and now back, in my case. The cracking addresses an underlying 'rigidity' problem I have had, I guess all my life, in the spine and especially the upper spine, somewhat to the left side. The rigidity leads to slumping posture, and more so over time. Cracking, and better yet stretching before coming to the cracking point, and between cracks, loosens up the stuck area.

      But this healing process is incredibly slow, and also somewhat painful. It is also noisy, and people notice me doing it. Not that I mind so much, but it does alter my 'persona' some.

      In several posts here I have mentioned doing yoga. So I will again mention it. Long story short: I think doing yoga asanas, daily if possible, is very helpful as a 'treatment' for habitual spinal joint joint cracking.

      posted in Treatment
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    • RE: Best Yoga vids on the internet

      djj, since you asked, I will now put in the same message that I sent you in your inbox here, with a new comment too, below it.

      I don't consider myself an expert on yoga, and so feel a little odd recommending anything in that realm. But I can say what I have done.

      I learned a useful set of poses long ago, in a fee class we had back then in my hometown. More recently I learned more from several videos – the names Rodney Yee and Patricia Walden come to mind, as presenting useful videos, which are surely now available in DVD. The best such video presentation that I know about is by Bidyut K. Bose. Actually, it is on DVD only and not on video. Here is a description of it from his website (niroga.org😞

      http://www.niroga.org/store/index.php

      It is a bit expensive at $40. It is also very complete, with 1 1/2 hours worth, and presents a graduated approach. I know B.K Bose and respect him highly.

      If money is a problem, it may be possible to borrow these things from a library. We can do that in the US, at least in our area here.

      I find that, for me, the plow is a really smart one to do for neck problems. Some people wonder if it causes neck problems. In my opinion and experience, for what those are worth, it helps to loosen up rigidities in the upper body and neck. At least it has done so for me. Everyone needs to evaluate it for themselves, checking with knowledgeable experts.

      But it is not a good idea to do only one asana. One needs the balance of a set of asanas, so that the loosening up is more general. Problems arise whan loosening up is limited to one or a few areas.

      posted in Treatment
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    • RE: This is Andy

      So, Danielle, what is your angle on joint-cracking? Do you do it? Or does it just happen to you, as in dj100's case?

      (Maybe I should search your previous posts to find out without asking… in fact, I will try that just now, while leaving this question up here for you.)

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: Automatic cracks that are out of my control

      dj100, Brian again…

      This makes your situation sound different than mine. Do you also find a need to crack, which you then intentionally make happen? Since that is almost always my situation.

      Your mention of a tight place off to the right of the lower neck sounds like my situation too, as I have said -- but with mine on the left (looking forward, obviously).

      I am certain that the tight place is real, and due to compromised joint tissue -- in my case, some arthritis, no doubt, but not just that since I have had it since adolescence.

      I would also like to tell you that my situation seems to be progressing rapidly, for the better. If yours turns out to be like mine, that may prove promising for you too. I will keep you posted, if I think of useful things to say about it.

      I still recommend yoga.

      posted in Joint cracking
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    • RE: This is Andy

      Andy, for what it is worth…

      I went through a period of bizarre arm symptoms, which I associated with using a computer keyboard. Like you, I would lose sensation in (parts of) the arms, including parts of the fingers but also in other parts.

      People advised me that it was "repetitive stress syndrome." Maybe that's what's going on for you too?

      I found various good ways to deal with it, via stretching exercises that people seem to know about these days. I learned these from a Pilates practitioner. So maybe that would help you too, if what you have turns out to be this same thing.

      Later, due to a neck issue (which I have describe in this forum), I became aware of how important posture is for avoiding repetitive stress injuries of the arms and hands. I think the problem may often stem from oddly compressed spinal vertebrae, due to unfortunate posture.

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: Yet another newbie here…

      OK, I will do that. Good luck to you.

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: Yet another newbie here…

      "I am probably stereotyping, but whenever I think of yoga, I think of old ladies, not 19 year old young guys like myself!"

      I started doing yoga at age 18. Back then, no old ladies did it. Times change.

      "However I am at university and a member of the gym, so I will check to see if they do any yoga classes."

      If they do not, there are plenty of good DVDs available to learn from, and work out with.

      "As for aerobic exercise, do you just mean stuff like going on the running machines? If so, I will definitely try doing that next month when I return to university."

      The word 'aerobic' refers to any exercise that gets the heart-rate up – and the breathing too, thus the prefix 'aer' which could be written 'air' based on the sound of it, and the meaning. You probably know that.

      So, yes, running machines do the job very well. Running itself of course also does it, or swimming, and/or so many other similar activities.

      "Back to the problem we both have at the base of the neck. Do you feel there is more pressure on one side of your neck than the other?"

      Yes, this is true in my case too. Mine happens to be more on the left side. But the deeper issue is central on the spine, I find. Cracking becomes more 'effective' the more central it goes, or so it seems to me. And, again, by 'effective,' I mean, leading somewhere; loosening up the rigid area so that, one day, no more cracking will be required. Thus, last night for example, my very long cracking session started on the left but gradually got more central, as I managed to loosen the rigid area better.

      "I have wanted an X-ray for ages, but the NHS have denied me one because there is no good reason for one. And i cannot afford to go private."

      An X-ray would probably be a good idea. I agree with that. Then again, whatever it said might not alter what you have to do, and go through -- unless you are thinking surgery might help.

      Anyway, good luck to you! I hope we both succeed in this.

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: Yet another newbie here…

      OK, dj, I will provide a few more answers, as time permits.

      ..
      "You talk about stretching to "improve" things, by improve do you mean
      a) making joints crack more or
      b) making joints crack less.
      Because as you can probably tell my aim is to get rid of the cracks completely!"

      I too am not happy about cracking all the time. The situation is sort of absurd, and painful too. Also, unfortunately, people tend to notice it no matter how I try to keep it under wraps. Some may think I am some sort of spastic – and maybe I am. Until it stops, I can't deny their theory any more than they can deny mine. But my theory has some facts to back it up; see below.

      My theory, and philosophy here, is that this is basically a good thing going on, with the body somehow self-programmed now to straighten out the spine in this noisy, continuous, time-consuming, and often painful way. I hope, first off, that this is true of me, and then, if it is, that it is also true of you. It will mean that at some point we will not only be free of cracking, but that we will have an improved body due to it.

      ...
      "So, for my neck which clicks, can you be specific about the stretches I should do?
      It generally seems to be in the back right side of my neck. So when it feels it needs to click, how should I stretch?"

      My answer will be true for me, in my opinion at least. I do not know if you and I have the same condition. So do please evaluate what I say to see if it really does match what you are experiencing.

      The click as you call it, which I generally call a crack due to the loud sound of it, indicates a motion of one part against the lack of motion of the other part. See what I mean? It is the same idea I said in the last message.

      So the hope is to get the rigid part also moving.

      Some cracks are 'productvie,' as I said. That means the crack is a needed adjustment. But most cracks are not that way, alas.

      Cracking most often represents taking the thing too far, having it slip out of control, with the one part slipping past the other without loosening the more rigid one up. So one takes the pressure up to just before cracking.

      I do hope this makes sense to you. In my case, I can hone in on the exact spot to exert pressure on, by the (somewhat OK-feeling) pain of it -- similar maybe to the pain, long ago, of a baby tooth coming loose, or the pain of finally moving an arm which has been in a cast for a half-year. Both are pain, yes, but both feel like pain that heralds a healing process, "good" pain as it were.

      "Many thanks, and I would be interested to hear about your spasms."

      I have had several sorts of spasm, as I said before. I will list them:

      1. Restless leg syndrome, especially at night (wrecking sleep for long poeriods), though not only at night.
      2. Foot cramps, sometimes escalating to full leg cramps. These have come on very suddenly and are always most unpleasant. They can, again, wreck sleep. They can happen at any time.
      3. Gastric acid reflux, a.k.a., "heart-burn," again happening at any time.
      4. Repetitive stress injuries to the arms, leading to numbness, pain, and twitching of the arms, especially the hands and the upper arms.
      5. An odd several weeks' period of very high blood pressure.
      6. Frank episodes of whole-body twitching, resembling a very mild epileptic fit, although I would always retain full consciousness.

      Get the idea?

      All of these have either totally gone, or have very nearly abated. Some, such as the high blood pressure and gastric acid reflux, are simply not happening at all any more. They are distant memories now.

      Here is my theory about it all. There has been some sort of spinal issue going on, a cramping of the spine due to bad posture, which has blocked or altered nerve conduction to some extent, from the spinal chord (cord?). By cracking, and by the subsequent need to straighten myself up continually so as to 'get at' the place that needs to crack, I have gradually unblocked this nerve conduction in its several places. Or so it appears to me. I attribute it to cracking, since by cracking I actually brought on each of those symptoms, so as to 'crack through it.' This is factual.

      Meanwhile, I sought medical treatment for each of those conditions, and had my physicians most worried too, at all those symptoms. I do not now take any medicines for any of those conditions, for the simple reason that I do not need any. So, I do not really care whether or not medical science agrees with my theories. All I can do is notice that my theories make sense, given what is actually happening, whereas no one else's theories have helped much, or made sense.

      OK, now back to you. I notice you made no reply about doing yoga. I think it will help. Have you ever tried it? I suspect that yoga has made me able to manage this. Who knows what would have happened without it. That, and aerobic exercise too. I recommend both.

      posted in Introductions
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    • RE: Yet another newbie here…

      Well, I may have some insight into what you describe. Then again, I am not trained in any sort of medical field, so all I can give is my uninformed opinions – which are based on these years of experience and conjecture regarding my own body's changing circumstances.

      "As for posture, hmm. Obviously I'm only 19 so still generally fit and healthy. I tend to bend my neck downwards slightly, but not enough that I would call it slouching."

      I also did not think I had especially bad posture. In fact, I think it has been reasonably good, all my life. But this situation has me improving on it anyway, whether I want to or not, or whether or not I think I need it.

      If a person does yoga (which I do strongly recommend), he or she will tend to really notice structural changes, since one can then do poses which were not possible previously -- such as, for me now, sitting on the floor without back-support (i.e., not against a wall or anything) with head, neck, and back in a straight line, and with legs outstretched straight forward... holding that pose for almost any length of time I might want, with no discomfort. I could not have done that at your age, or later until now. Therefore, I evidently have not had the sort of posture earlier which I can now achieve. You might see how you do trying that sitting pose.

      "I try to do the opposite and stand up straight, but this just puts more pressure on my neck to click, which is horrible. The joint cracking itself has changed, yes." "... it has been much louder and happens much more automatically."

      I have a theory about the cracking. Basically, cracking must mean that one joint (or set of joints) is stiff, while the set above it is loose. The cracking happens when the loose ones interact with the stiff ones. It seems to be part of the body's attempt to loosen up the stiff ones. In general, loose is better than stiff -- although, I have heard that one can get overly flexible, causing problems. Cracking may lead to that, if one does not also stretch instead of cracking.

      How does a person stretch instead of cracking? Follow the pain to where the stretch needs to occur. Apply pressure (in my case, usually, by bending backwards a bit), but not so much pressure as to cause the joint to crack. Hold it, into the pain.

      And that assumes that you have pain associated with your situation. If not, again, then yours may differ from mine in cause and/or in how to solve it.

      In my case there is a pain associated with the cracking. The pain tells me where to exert a little pressure so as to crack. Sometimes very effective cracks happen which seem to me to indicate a loosening up of a stiff area -- essentially the same as what a chiropractor attempts. But, lately, I am often finding ways to stretch instead of cracking.

      I find that stretching brings about progress. It has lead to more and more changes, and 'deeper' cracks, along with clear adjustments of the joints, further down in the back. The joints can sometimes seem to slip into a better relationship to each other. I think the cracking sound continues to come mostly from the base of the neck, in my case. But the action it is addressing, the helpful stretching and loosening, can take place lower in the back.

      "And also, just as I bent forward to click the reply button, I felt a sort of spasm in my lower back, I have had a lot of these lately, do you ever get them?"

      I have had quite a few different sorts of spasms to deal with. In general, they are getting better over time. I have a theory about that too.

      "And please tell me about the health benefits you mention?"

      Since this is already a long post, I think I will save that topic for the next interchange, assuming you write back in, in reply to this post.

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    • RE: Yet another newbie here…

      dj100,

      Thanks for the reply, and question. No, I do not remember anything happening to my neck, as did in your case.

      Oddly, I think what is happening to me might have a good side to it. Over time, my posture is actually improving. Plus, as far as I can tell, the nature of the cracking has changed over time. It seems lots more "effective" now, and deeper, than it did at first. But the progress is incredibly slow. It takes LOTS of cracking to get anywhere in this process.

      People in my age category tend to start slumping over, and some of that involves the actual bone structure, discs, and ligaments and so on. In my case the process is evidently going the other direction. So, I am willing to consider this a very good development. But I wouldn't mind it finishing up rather than just continuing indefinitely.

      My point is that the clicking may have started on its own anyway, in your case, since it certainly did in mine. My point is also that the cracking might indicate the start of a really good thing, such as a beneficial change in structure. I seem to have several clear health benefits coming from this – and I could give details about those too, if anyone is interested.

      Do you (dj) have a slouching posture? And is it changing. along with the joint cracking? If not, then your situation might not be the same as mine -- or it might be a very early stage of what I have going on.

      I will be interested in your response, and ideas.

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      brianR
    • Yet another newbie here…

      New to this forum. Male, 60 yrs old. Good health. Strong body still. I am also fairly flexible, doing yoga for some years now. Started yoga at age 18, but let it lapse until much more recently.

      I have had cracking going on in varying ways for at least ten years. In the past 4 or 5 years it has gotten really pronounced. Lots of people notice it and mention it. Where is it? At the base of the neck, mostly.

      A year ago it was interrupting sleep. Very noisy. Pain brings on the urge. Cracking doesn't really relieve the pain, since more cracking keeps being needed. Seems to be a progressive process, but why it would keep going for so long is a mystery.

      Oddly, this seems to have resulted in me getting taller, in measured inches. Maybe 1/2 inch or so taller, due to better posture being forced upon me by the cracking need. As I write the cracking seems to be in the upper back, maybe underneath where the shoulder blades meet the spine.

      I have seen many professionals for this, including standard physicians (of no help at all), an osteopath (not much better), various exercise therapists (somewhat helpful), a yoga teacher of some repute (B.K. Bose), several chiropractors (not too helpful, so far)… and more, believe it or not. So far I find that I know more about this than any of these folks, simply because I am forced to observe it (and feel it) more than anyone else.

      Interested in anyone's ideas.

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      brianR