Tendons
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Well all facts are based on experiments and the reactions visible and not visible on people and so 'Hearsay' isn't really hearsay but more of preliminary knowledge which will one day be summarised.
Doesn't matter in old age either - things in earlier life could be helping and i know another person who has had it.
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as long as were straight on hearsay and fact.
you still have given no facts about "weak tendons'
and for the old age thing your right, I agree
if you stretch and take care of yourself you won't have to worry as much about 'weak tendons' when your older
you could be 70 and healthy and flexible
or like BKS Iyengar who will be 90 this Dec:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eEFlYVff4Q
empirical fact>preliminary knowledge
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The thing is with hearsay is that there is usually truth in it and also, if you pick it up near to the primary source or you have seen the source of the hearsay then that means that their is fact in it.
This meaning that fact and hearsay are much closer and that by the coming around of hearsay - fact is based.
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What do you think that guy would say about your weak tendons theory?
or the coiled springs in the neck theory?
We should be listening to his theories.
millions have.
Thanks Mr Iyengar. :mrgreen: -
No - i am not saying there are coiled springs but it was used as an image. The weakening of a spring, not as strong etc.
Also, he isn't related to this issue as he has no problems. That is just one old guy being very flexible and looking after himself in his life.
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He is also an expert on human anatomy and world renowned teacher who can teach You to have Strong Healthy ligaments , tendons, and muscles. Even when your older.
people accepting hearsay as facts leads to 'old wives tales'
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Not if the people who hear it, hear it from the primary source, and unedit it. Also….
Ok let's set a relative scenario.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheumatoid_arthritis - firstly - although irrelevant to this - the pictures of the hands are horrible.
People suffering from symptons of a previously unheard of disease. People ignore it and say nothing is there. However, more people are affected and there is more hear of it in the medical communtiy. However, as many people have heard of it some people think it isn't true. However, it provokes interest and it is later proven to be a disease.
Because the medical profession received news by hearsay - does this not mean it has its credentials? Should it be discredited?
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I guess there's always stuff waiting to be reserached but as i've said i'm no doctor…
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I understand your point about hearsay.
It can go either way. old wives tale or New Medical breakthrough
you decide. LoL. but don't leave it to the courts. LoL
As for the weak tendons topic, i don't buy it. except disease, injury or age.
your friends uncles story I don't understand.
I don't understand your point " I got the tendon thing when the person had them cut from someone i know who's uncle cracked for ages. So, i don't understand how that is not fact."
I'm just trying to understand what your saying, that quote is hard to interpret. It technically doesn't make any sense. :roll: And I would like to know the story, and learn from it.
Did he have RA? That would explain a lot.The wikipedia page is on RA and DISEASED joints, the cause of which is not understood.
not weak tendons , OR cracking causing a problem. But Disease.My whole point here friend is that we are trying to learn about anatomy and cracking here. We need Real information. Not just what you think.
Try not to be scaring People with your own conclusions:Blaze: "However i do know that the reason why your fingers curl in is because you weaken the tendons so the fingers are pulled taut."
people might try to stop cracking their fingers, afraid of 'weak tendons' if they heard that unfounded statement.
And we wouldn't want that.
and that statement doesn't make to much sense anatomically.
Maybe if you have the Disease Arthritis it could/would. -
Hopefully i don't get it.
Who says it is right though to lead everyone to believe to crack will cause no harm. Not everybody who logs on here, necessarily wants to continue - this is proven (fact) in one of the previous polls.
The guy's uncle had his tendons cut because of his fingers curling in due to his cracking. He had no anaesthetic to enforce his abstinence from cracking.
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did he have RA?
I know not everyone wants to crack.
Thats whats so interesting the different views of the topics.
Many think it's a bad thing but there really is no proof either way?
I appreciate all views expressed here, including yours Blaze.
I hope debate sparks us, toward research and further understanding as a community.
Thanks to JC we can learn more about this senario and it's many facets together.
But we need valid information. Sensible Hearsay, experiences and rhetoric.Either way cracking happens, weather positive, negative or neutral.
This forum lets you decide.
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No lol
I was trying to find a mecial case for my scenario and looked at arthritis and saw those nasty hands.
Well summarised.
Like the second debate we have had
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I enjoy the Jointcracking debates we have
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I enjoy cracking jonts even more
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Ok MC - i prefer finding information out on it.
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i'm somewhere between MC and Blaze
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what is?
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my opinion - i like cracking, but also like finding out about it.
sad i know… lol -
Not really as we are all here and some crack showing we all do the same.
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yeah thats one of the reasons i really like this board
