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    • K

      No need for diagnosis
      Diagnosis • • K8kate

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      JointCracker

      K8kate, interesting discussion.

      I agree there is a strong psychological link to joint cracking in the form of an obsessive compulsive disorder.

      However, I strongly believe there are also physical aspects with joint cracking. As a long time joint cracker you cannot always quit joint cracking like you quit sucking your thumb or smoking. Of course I am very happy it worked for you like that!

      I am very interested in those underlying issues you name. A few points to ponder about:

      Some report their diet seems to have an influence on joint cracking desire.

      Joint cracking seems to have a genetic component.

      Joint cracking does do something seemingly irreversible to your liagments which foster joint cracking desire.

      Joint cracking can seriously reduce your quality of life.

      Smoking makes those that are addicted to it feel good. They enjoy the experience. Joint crackers with physical implications do not crack to feel good, they crack to not feel bad, to mobilize their joints, etc. They feel physical pain when not cracking. Because of the negative liagment-loop the more you crack, the more you want to crack. The pain only goes away for a little while, it comes back in quicker and quicker cycles the more you crack. The converse arguments holds: Exercise strengthening your muscles / tendons / liagments does help stabilize joints and thus reduce joint pressure pains.

      Being submersed in warmth seems to reduce joint pressure.

      Will power alone will only work on joints with the following properties:

      The joint must not crack on normal daily movements you cannot possibly prevent. The joint only cracks with a special "move" or "stretch" you can make yourself aware of.E.g. my "ankles" do not seem to fit into this pattern. Minimal, normal unconscious movements suffice, I am often surprised when they pop. Unless I put my feet in casts, it will be pretty much impossible to avoid these unintended "surprise" cracks. As long as the joint cracking related physical properties of my ankles are not treated, reversed or undone, I thus doubt I'll ever be able to minimize their cracking to a level where I'm not bothered by them.

      All in all, does this sound like an ordinary "habit" in all cases? I think not. Hence this forum and sub-section. 🙂

      Of course joint popping can be a simple habit, too. Most people can pick up knuckle cracking and more if they really want to and are bored or whatever. Not everyone needs to use the "advanced" sections.

    • K

      Cracked for 13 Yr and developed migraines
      Joint cracking • • K8kate

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      JointCracker

      K8kate, thanks for sharing your success story. Congratulations. How long ago have you stopped? How many days, months, years has it been?

      Could you elaborate what you did that helped you to stop? Was it sheer will power or did you do anything to help ease the transition?

      Personally, besides obvious will power, I learned the following helps:

      If a day is messed up a day is messed up, start anew with "stopping" when you get out of bed in the morning. It is easier to continue not to crack if you have not done so for a while. 8 hours or so is a start! Relaxation of any sort, do stuff you really like which help you relax. Physical exercise which doesn't induce cracking. For ankles and toes e.g. jogging helps. I recommend fitness clubs for otherwise hard to train muscles / tendons. If you feel a very strong cracking desire in a specific joint, try to wiggle the joint a little bit. Not enough to get it to crack! Just a little bit to get the tendons to loosen up a little. Warmth: Hot shower, bath, sauna.