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      Benny last edited by

      Hi Blaze - thanks for the reply - to update :

      1. I'm still on the right side of the grass.

      2. Right shoulder has settled down but still need to crack neck and jaw and now left shoulder displays same symptoms the right did when I needed the acromioplasty - SO - I guess it's back to the doctor for a diagnosis and ultrasound and eventual MRI.

      It feels like my joints are pulling themselves apart and the need to crack is as I stated previously - necessary for acceptable movement and pain relief.

      This is a pain (sic) in the a*s - no cracking there yet - lol - because I am a young retiree - 52 - and I am quite active with sailing and golf and construction projects around the house etc. I am now starting to ride a motorcycle so i don't want this arm problem to impede my pursuit of the fun things I like to do.

      Maybe I need a good SWEDISH massage - you would know about those !

      Take care - maybe some medical professional has an idea what is happening to me.

      Regards, Benny

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        Blaze last edited by

        At least you are getting better.

        And p.s. i don't live in Sweden, i wouldn't mind though.

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          bod8 last edited by

          sweden is supposed to be quite a nice country or so i'm told…

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            Blaze last edited by

            Yes it is for numerous reasons.

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              bod8 last edited by

              benny - i hope you get better 😎

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                Benny last edited by

                Thanks Bod8 - it's not life threatening - just life minimizing when pain etc impedes my enjoyment of activities. My biggest irritation is that our medical professionals are oblivious to the joint cracking problems and their interconnection with the musculo-skelatal problems and their inability to investigate the root causes and develop a 'big picture' diagnosis and prognosis for the problem.

                Hopefully you younger persons with cracking problems won't develop these kinds of problems later in life.

                Good luck with your cracking.

                Regards, Benny

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                  Benny last edited by

                  BTW - Blaze - your signature says you're leaving on June 4th - going away for a vacation or are you leaving this site?

                  Have a good trip if it's a holiday and hope you're not leaving the site permanently, you've done a lot of posting in the last year or so.

                  Regards, Benny

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                    Blaze last edited by

                    Yeh i had joined then didn't come on here for ages otherwise my average per day would be 10+.

                    I am thinking about leaving.

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                      bod8 last edited by

                      i don't know if i could ever leave this forum - every time i click i think of it lol… well, not every time 😛

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                        MasterCracker last edited by

                        Blaze it doesn't surprise me u know your average posts per day 8O

                        Benny your story is unique
                        with age comes more problems w the body and more muscle pain
                        it's part of the contract of living 50 years
                        BUT still your story is interesting
                        Does Swedish massage bring you relief?
                        Have you ever heard of MFT- Myo Fascial Therapies?
                        Or MFR- MyoFacial Relase
                        The MFR can release adhesions, reduce pain, and seriously improve ROM
                        Thai massage is also Great but may not be what you need?
                        MFT , (which includes MFR) also has joint mobilization stretches , and PNF stretches ( proprioceptive nerumuscular facilitation) stretches that can help with pain and lack of motion.

                        Checking into it can't hurt

                        BUT if I'm hearing you correct, the joint cracking isn't the problem.
                        It's actually helping you regain ROM each day?

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                          Blaze last edited by

                          Not off by heart.

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                            bod8 last edited by

                            @MasterCracker:

                            Blaze it doesn't surprise me u know your average posts per day 8O

                            Benny your story is unique
                            with age comes more problems w the body and more muscle pain
                            it's part of the contract of living 50 years
                            BUT still your story is interesting
                            Does Swedish massage bring you relief?
                            Have you ever heard of MFT- Myo Fascial Therapies?
                            Or MFR- MyoFacial Relase
                            The MFR can release adhesions, reduce pain, and seriously improve ROM
                            Thai massage is also Great but may not be what you need?
                            MFT , (which includes MFR) also has joint mobilization stretches , and PNF stretches ( proprioceptive nerumuscular facilitation) stretches that can help with pain and lack of motion.

                            Checking into it can't hurt

                            BUT if I'm hearing you correct, the joint cracking isn't the problem.
                            It's actually helping you regain ROM each day?

                            looks like some good advice there MC, as usual 😎

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                              Benny last edited by

                              MasterCracker - thanks for your reply - I don't know how old you are but if you are my age or there abouts then you would know the difference between age related stiffness and soreness and the problems I am experiencing. Yes I get those too and thanks for the suggested treatments but your last sentence is a re-iteration of what I have previously posted and my wish for this site was to hopefully find either an explanation or others who may be experiencing the same problems and have found a solution. I have been to neurologists, orthopedic surgeons, chiropractors, therapists of all types - physio only - not psychological - lol - hmmm maybe that's next! - have had ultrasounds, extensive bloodwork and other investigative chemistry and Xrays and MRI's and the upshot is that they all say there is something wrong and it's affecting my muscles and joints, they just don't know what could be causing the problem. I have even stopped drinking diet soft drinks due to reported connections with formaldehyde and joint problems. I take a 100mg dose of voltarin daily which is a strong anti-inflammatory to subdue the pain but this will probably eventually cause stomach and liver problems.

                              In any event, thank you all for your concern and interest in my condition. As I stated, it's not life threatening but life minimizing. I am considering having that total body medical imaging and work-up done - at about $2500.00 it would be well worth it to find out what the problem is.

                              Regards, Benny

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                                Blaze last edited by

                                Well i would say that MC is :lol:

                                Yeh that is the downside of not having a free health system.

                                Chiropractors are bad - don't go to one again.

                                Maybe if the problem is diagnosed then hypnosis could like do something…?

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                                  Benny last edited by

                                  Hey Blaze - aren't chiropractors just professional crackers? At least they get paid - paid well - for cracking joints.

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                                    Blaze last edited by

                                    Yeh.

                                    But they aren't recognised in the medical field.

                                    The theory of their profession is bogus.

                                    They cause a lot of injuries and hook you.

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                                      MasterCracker last edited by

                                      hey benny I'm 31
                                      I get what your saying better now
                                      "my last sentence" was trying to make sure i understood, not reiterate
                                      but I get get it Loud n Clear now
                                      Your 'condition" is more than the effects of aging
                                      AND causes you Great discomfort
                                      how long have u been experiencing this?
                                      Is the condition bilateral (happening on both sides)?
                                      I find it Intriguing that cracking Improves your ROM
                                      I've def never heard of you condition
                                      NOR have the solution
                                      I do have sympathy though
                                      I have scanned most of this site at this point n there are no similar stories I have seen.

                                      Do you believe that cracking has helped the situation, created the situation, or is a neutral factor?

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                                        MasterCracker last edited by

                                        Just re read your post, sorry if I was redundant in my last post

                                        carpal tunnel syndrome is manifest through repetitive action or 'overuse' of the wrists, fingers and hands not through cracking/stretching/joint mobilization.

                                        it's common in GOLFERS, construction workers,office workers who type all day, and musicians etc.

                                        In fact I would imagine stretching and joint mobilization (which often causes cracks) would help to prevent CTS.

                                        It seems though that you have more of a disease/disorder that is affecting your joints.

                                        Arnica is a great anti-inflammatory.
                                        Best wishes.

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                                          Benny last edited by

                                          OK - I guess I've put myself into 'guinea pig' status - lol - but in the interest of science and entertainment, I have had this condition for about 7 years now starting with shoulder aches and developing to where I had to have an operation on that shoulder. It is bi-lateral in that the left shoulder and arm are now experiencing the same problems and will most probably result in an operation as well. Bi-lateral carpal tunnel developed about 2 years ago.

                                          I crack methodically throughout the day to provide range of motion and discomfort relief as required - some days are worse than others but these procedures sometimes involve a consecutive and adjoining series of cracks to get the desired result. For example, I may have to crack 2 or three fingers in my right hand either sideways or by pulling them and then my right elbow and then my right shoulder and then my right cervical spine which altogether gives relief for the arm and neck. Other times it may be only the right clavicle sternum joint and then the neck. Other times maybe only a single joint like the neck. It occurs as required when my body parts are giving me discomfort signals which always results in the need to crack them. This is what I find most odd about it - my body is actually displacing the joints either by autonomous muscle or tendon contraction or joint synovial fluid NO2 build-up which causes me to know automatically which joint to crack and to what extent. Even single digit joints like the thumb or a toe.

                                          Now every medical professional I have not only explained this to but actually demonstrated and called the cracks before hand feels that I either just have hyper-flexive joints or they look at me like I am on the verge of being psychotic. I think I may have some invasive condition or may be the result of environmental exposures - like heavy metals etc that may be causing this and will continue to slowly attack various areas of my body. I have recently started getting right hip pains and have to crack my right ankle and knee to relieve them. I have also had bone spurs occur and there is a bump about the size of a grape on my right upper sternum where the first rib joins which the doctors says is probably coastal chondritis. I am of the opinion that all these are inter-connected and a result of something either chemically or biophysically out of balance in my system.

                                          What I find truly remarkable in all this is that there does not appear to be anyone else out there suffering from these problems tied to joint cracking.

                                          It may be that I am the first and others from your generations may develop similar problems. I have 3 sons and two of them have the same joint cracking needs in most of their joints but do not have any pain or abnormal conditions yet.

                                          Hopefully I haven't bored you all but there it is and I now step out of the spotlight to resume my place as a junior jointcracker.

                                          Regards, Benny

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                                            bod8 last edited by

                                            @Benny:

                                            OK - I guess I've put myself into 'guinea pig' status - lol - but in the interest of science and entertainment, I have had this condition for about 7 years now starting with shoulder aches and developing to where I had to have an operation on that shoulder. It is bi-lateral in that the left shoulder and arm are now experiencing the same problems and will most probably result in an operation as well. Bi-lateral carpal tunnel developed about 2 years ago.

                                            I crack methodically throughout the day to provide range of motion and discomfort relief as required - some days are worse than others but these procedures sometimes involve a consecutive and adjoining series of cracks to get the desired result. For example, I may have to crack 2 or three fingers in my right hand either sideways or by pulling them and then my right elbow and then my right shoulder and then my right cervical spine which altogether gives relief for the arm and neck. Other times it may be only the right clavicle sternum joint and then the neck. Other times maybe only a single joint like the neck. It occurs as required when my body parts are giving me discomfort signals which always results in the need to crack them. This is what I find most odd about it - my body is actually displacing the joints either by autonomous muscle or tendon contraction or joint synovial fluid NO2 build-up which causes me to know automatically which joint to crack and to what extent. Even single digit joints like the thumb or a toe.

                                            Now every medical professional I have not only explained this to but actually demonstrated and called the cracks before hand feels that I either just have hyper-flexive joints or they look at me like I am on the verge of being psychotic. I think I may have some invasive condition or may be the result of environmental exposures - like heavy metals etc that may be causing this and will continue to slowly attack various areas of my body. I have recently started getting right hip pains and have to crack my right ankle and knee to relieve them. I have also had bone spurs occur and there is a bump about the size of a grape on my right upper sternum where the first rib joins which the doctors says is probably coastal chondritis. I am of the opinion that all these are inter-connected and a result of something either chemically or biophysically out of balance in my system.

                                            What I find truly remarkable in all this is that there does not appear to be anyone else out there suffering from these problems tied to joint cracking.

                                            It may be that I am the first and others from your generations may develop similar problems. I have 3 sons and two of them have the same joint cracking needs in most of their joints but do not have any pain or abnormal conditions yet.

                                            Hopefully I haven't bored you all but there it is and I now step out of the spotlight to resume my place as a junior jointcracker.

                                            Regards, Benny

                                            No you haven't bored me lol, i find it interesting reading about other people's joint cracking, specially when i can relate it to myself!

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